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F-22 Raptor vs F-35 Joint Strike Fighter



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Neno
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Check, what do you mean when you talk about IRST on F22? are you referring to aim9x seekers?
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I'm talking about the embedded system. The F-22 does not employ AIM-9X. Check
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Uh?? Shocked I din't knew the Raptor had an IRST, i heard about the intention of filling it in some future block. This is a pretty news, thanks !! Very Happy

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The F-22 does not employ AIM-9X. Check


I hope it will do tomorrow ..
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As far as I know it has it...I certainly could be wrong, but its supposed to...Check
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checksixx wrote:
As far as I know it has it...I certainly could be wrong, but its supposed to...Check


The F-22 TODAY does not have any IRST system. It does have a number of IR based missile warning detectors.
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checksixx wrote:
As far as I know it has it...I certainly could be wrong, but its supposed to...Check


I believe the IRST was deferred as well have heard that it may be pushed forward for development. No mention of it in the issues of International Air Power or World Air Power Journal that I have.

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checksixx wrote:
As far as I know it has it...I certainly could be wrong, but its supposed to...Check


I could be very wrong so someone correct me:

-F-22 was designed with the ability to have IRST but it was left out for now (cost) and might be a growth upgrade later.

-F-22 was also designed to have a cheek array on the right and left nose and there is space for it, but that was also left out for now for cost reasons and could be put in later as a growth upgrade. Could do some even more scary ISR stuff.

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elp wrote:
I could be very wrong so someone correct me:

-F-22 was designed with the ability to have IRST but it was left out for now (cost) and might be a growth upgrade later.

-F-22 was also designed to have a cheek array on the right and left nose and there is space for it, but that was also left out for now for cost reasons and could be put in later as a growth upgrade. Could do some even more scary ISR stuff.


You are exactly right, elp.
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About F-22A and F-35 (My personal data collection, Toga there = Toan here)

http://www.acewings.com/cobrachen/forum ... IC_ID=3107
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I am doing a research paper on the F-22 and I was wondering if anyone knows of a reliable source that can show the specs and what not
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I find kinda funny that all development costs are counted only for F-22 and not for F-35. Without F-22 development, F-35 would never exist! So please count development costs againt and share the numbers between those two...
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Developement costs are often stated for both types, but the F-22 only has an expected production run of 180 airframes to spread that out over while the F-35 has an expected 2,400-3,500 airframes to spread it out over.

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raptorman22 wrote:
I am doing a research paper on the F-22 and I was wondering if anyone knows of a reliable source that can show the specs and what not


The USAF fact sheet should be pretty reliable... Smile

http://www.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?fsID=199

There is an email contact address at the bottom of that page for the USAF Air Combat Command which may be able to provide further information, if required.
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Speaking of reliability:

Conan wrote:
raptorman22 wrote:
I am doing a research paper on the F-22 and I was wondering if anyone knows of a reliable source that can show the specs and what not


The USAF fact sheet should be pretty reliable... Smile

http://www.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?fsID=199

There is an email contact address at the bottom of that page for the USAF Air Combat Command which may be able to provide further information, if required.


Has anyone noticed the weight?... I dont think it can be less than 20,000 lbs. Either that's just the airframe without ANYTHING or we went from a 1.3ish thrust to weight to 1.6ish (counting full fuel and ~4k internal stores).

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