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Interesting F-16 pic and Red Flag



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Obamanite
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Anyone notice something very peculiar about this picture?

http://www.fencecheck.com/forums/index. ... 8758;image

Also, over at Fencecheck there are a couple of great threads showing fighters involved in the current Red Flag, including French SU-30s and French Rafales Shocked

http://www.fencecheck.com/forums/index. ... 4.810.html

http://www.fencecheck.com/forums/index. ... 726.0.html

I am extremely curious to know how these two airplanes fared. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like there are any f-22s involved.
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What's strange about picture?

Indian Su-30s. Wink
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You must be referring to the HTS pod on the left hardpoint. Didn't you read about this in any of your magazines?

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JoeSambor wrote:
You must be referring to the HTS pod on the left hardpoint. Didn't you read about this in any of your magazines?

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I knew a long time ago that the HTS pod had been moved over to the left to allow for carriage of a targetting pod on the right. You're on the right track, but that's not what's VERY unusual about this picture.
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PeanutMike wrote:
What's strange about picture?

Indian Su-30s. Wink


Yes, thank you, that's what I meant!
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Obamanite wrote:
JoeSambor wrote:
You must be referring to the HTS pod on the left hardpoint. Didn't you read about this in any of your magazines?

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I knew a long time ago that the HTS pod had been moved over to the left to allow for carriage of a targetting pod on the right. You're on the right track, but that's not what's VERY unusual about this picture.


Specifically, that the HTS pod is hung on a block 42?
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I think it has to do with common configuration implementation program aka CCIP. basically block 40 and 50's have same avionic packages so there previous mission capabilities theoretically can be interchanged. Correct me if I am worng but basically Both 40's and 50's can do the same things in an avionics sense. they can both fly hts/latirn
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That_Engine_Guy wrote:
Obamanite wrote:
JoeSambor wrote:
You must be referring to the HTS pod on the left hardpoint. Didn't you read about this in any of your magazines?

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I knew a long time ago that the HTS pod had been moved over to the left to allow for carriage of a targetting pod on the right. You're on the right track, but that's not what's VERY unusual about this picture.


Specifically, that the HTS pod is hung on a block 42?


Exactly. Had never seen that before. Seeing as how it's an OT bird, they're obviously trying it out on the Block 42 and it's not necessarily operationally representative. Nevertheless, very interesting that the option is obviously being explored.
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good lookin aircraft
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I think it's kind of interesting that the airplane has the subdued markings everywhere but on the tail and on the side of the intake. Those markings hark back to the late '80s.

It's obviously a relatively new pic--post CCIP--and that airplane is TDY to Nellis. Isn't it normally based at Eglin?

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We are testing the new software for the MMC jets. When we released M4.2 software it essentially brought the block 40 M4.1 & 50 M3.4 avionics together. We converted to the HTS-R7 pod and moved it to the left hardpoint. This not only gives the block 40's SEAD capability but more importantly give both jets the SEAD/DEAD capability.

Ironically enough when all block 40's went through CCIP the D-models were not given the GPS timing wire to the left hard point. They only have SEAD capability, but not DEAD. We are looking at doing a MOD to add the wire to the jets.
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SixerViper wrote:
I think it's kind of interesting that the airplane has the subdued markings everywhere but on the tail and on the side of the intake. Those markings hark back to the late '80s.

It's obviously a relatively new pic--post CCIP--and that airplane is TDY to Nellis. Isn't it normally based at Eglin?


It was taken during the past week, at Nellis. Probably involved in the latest Red Flag.
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specs343579 wrote:
I think it has to do with common configuration implementation program aka CCIP. basically block 40 and 50's have same avionic packages so there previous mission capabilities theoretically can be interchanged. Correct me if I am worng but basically Both 40's and 50's can do the same things in an avionics sense. they can both fly hts/latirn


There is one significant difference between Blocks 40/42 and 50/52: the former lack AIFF. Don't know if that is exclusively used for air-to-air engagements or whether it also affects the Block 50/52 SEAD/DEAD mission.
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DeGrawR wrote:
We are testing the new software for the MMC jets. When we released M4.2 software it essentially brought the block 40 M4.1 & 50 M3.4 avionics together. We converted to the HTS-R7 pod and moved it to the left hardpoint. This not only gives the block 40's SEAD capability but more importantly give both jets the SEAD/DEAD capability.

Ironically enough when all block 40's went through CCIP the D-models were not given the GPS timing wire to the left hard point. They only have SEAD capability, but not DEAD. We are looking at doing a MOD to add the wire to the jets.


I've always wondered why the U.S. goes through such expense to field fully combat-capable and updated two-seat models of the F-15 and F-16 when they will never be used in combat, except in very rare occassions (such as the F-16's first AMRAAM kill).

Thanks for the info, by the way. Very exciting to know Block 40s can now use that left hardpoint for something, ever since the LANTIRN's NAV pod dropped off the face of the Earth (I've wondered what the hell happened to those pods - such enormous expense to field them for basically nothing)...
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See anything interesting in this picture? … definitely gay.

Source: http://www.nellis.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123111013



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